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I have been trying to figure out what the deal is with heretics, especially when it comes to punishment, excommunication, and whether or not the are automatically “out of the Church”, still “in the Church”, still clergy, etc. Does an official sentence have to be passed? Some even belief that heretics are immediately kicked out, and are no longer even Catholic. It was the Council of Trent quote above that enabled me to figure this out. First, a quote: “Excommunication is an act of jurisdiction.” St. Thomas Aquinas In the Catechism of the Council of Trent, page 95, we read this: “Those Who Are Not Members Of The Church   Hence there are but three classes of persons excluded from the Church's pale: infidels, heretics and schismatics, and excommunicated persons. Infidels are outside the Church because they never belonged to, and never knew the Church, and were never made partakers of any of her Sacraments. Heretics and schismatics are excluded from the Church, because they have separat...

Kurgan obviously thinks highly of science fiction author and Catholic convert John C. Wright. He holds him up as an example of someone going from “totally wrong” (atheism) to “totally right (Catholicism), and I agree with him.   Kurgan even calls him “esteemed” on page 90 of his book. Esteemed - Having an illustrious reputation. Respected. Here’s where kurgan holds JCW up as a great example: RTCC - Pages 41 - 42 1.1 - Be willing to admit you are totally wrong (My comments in Red) This is a very important step.   It is the hallmark   of the honest man, and without it, one can never learn, improve, or become better. Realize that improvement is continuous building and re-building on the broken foundations called error… Here are just three examples of people who realized they were utterly and completely wrong : 2) The Science Fiction Writer John C. Wright - A devout atheist, John did not believe in any kind of God at all, and just as a matter of intellectual honesty, decided...

Kurgan VS The Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas ROUND 1 Whether a man can excommunicate himself, his equal, or his superior? THE KURGAN: To be clear, losing that (ecclesiastical office) is what happens when you become a heretic. You are no longer clergy, no longer Catholic, and no longer able to give any sacraments or in any way speak for or represent Catholicism. Of course, anyone normal and rational can see plainly that canon 188.4 in fact DOES say precisely this. A self-confessed heretic instantly becomes a heretic. Nothing further needs to be said or done by anyone. The fact itself convicts him, judges him and executes the punishment there and then. Ipso facto. It’s really childishly simple to understand and plainly written. ST.  THOMAS AQUINAS: Objection 1:  It would seem that a man can excommunicate himself, his equal, or his superior. For an angel of God was greater than Paul, according to  Mat. 11:11 : "He that is lesser in the kingdom of heaven is greater th...

"Once a priest, always a priest" has always been true in the Catholic Church. Let's look at where this came from. First Canon Law, and then the Council of Trent. Canon 211 1 - Although sacred ordination, once validly received, can never be invalidated , nevertheless, a major cleric can be returned to the lay state by a rescript of the Holy See, by a decree or sentence according to the norm of Canon 214, or finally as a penalty of degradation. Canon 109 1 - Those who are taken into the ecclesiastical hierarchy are not bound thereto by the consent or call of the people or secular   power, but are constituted in the grades of the power of orders by sacred ordination; into the supreme pontificate, by divine law itself upon the completion of the conditions of legitimate election and acceptance, in the remanding grades of jurisdiction, by canonical mission. Commentary on Canon 109 - Dom Augustine This canon, the first clause of which is taken from the dogmatic canons of the Cou...

What does “Ipso Facto” actually mean? Does it mean “automatic’? Well, yes and no. Here’s the explanation. From dictionary.thelaw.com IPSO FACTO (My comments in Red ) Latin meaning “by the fact itself”, something so obvious on its face that it doesn’t need an explanation, for example, that a certifiably insane individual does not have the capacity to enter into a binding legal contract by himself. This phrase is frequently employed to convey the idea that something which has been done contrary to law is void. For example, if a married man, during the life of his wife, of which he had knowledge, should marry another woman, the latter marriage would be void ipso facto; that is, on the fact being proved, the second marriage would be declared void ab initio (Latin for “from the beginning). So, here’s the first two steps of the process: 1 - Man marries first wife 2 - Man marries second wife Now, as long as this is kept a secret, unknown by everyone (or in canon law speak, belongs to the “int...